Newbie Questions

Re: Repeating table headaches

Gennady Vanin (Геннадий Ванин, Новосибирск) — Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:32:40 GMT

I cannot manage keeping me silent on this...

I have asked Hilary:

"Is not it possible to restrict/filter/condition rules to current repeating node in any way?
Even if it is less proper solution (or requires editing source files) I'd like to know from learning point of view
(I expect XPath expression like "current()/" and/or [current()]).
Well, I tried a few variants and all failed and I do not understand clearly why "

And Hilary's answer to me:

"I think the issue with this particular form is that current() doesn’t really apply – the buttons are outside of the repeating group. Any rule on the button that references “current()” would probably be referring to the root (or whatever node the section the button sits in is bound to)"

Re: Repeating table headaches

Queenie — Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:45:40 GMT

Thanks - I think I understand now. You're a star!

Re: Repeating table headaches

Hilary Stoupa — Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:36:53 GMT

Go take a look at the logic on the helper field - since that field is inside the repeating group, the rules it runs only affect the instances of the other fields inside the same group.

Re: Repeating table headaches

Queenie — Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:31:18 GMT

*sigh* It works on the VM I'm running on the same computer but not on the computer itself. Don't you just love Technology?

I can see there's the hidden helper field with the rules on, so:

When you click the < button, the hidden helper field value is changed to "Back"

When the hidden helper field = "Back", the rules apply to roll the week data across to the left.

How does this manage to work for all the rows?

Re: Repeating table headaches

Gennady Vanin (Геннадий Ванин, Новосибирск) — Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:26:24 GMT

If you have managed to open previously the template from my computer, might be it would work again?

Re: Repeating table headaches

Hilary Stoupa — Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:19:41 GMT

It is saved as an IP 2007 template (I just double checked). When you download it, right click and select design from the locally saved file - is that how you tried to open it?

Re: Repeating table headaches

Queenie — Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:52:42 GMT

Thanks for looking into this, Hilary. Slight problem I have before anything else - I can't open the form!

Error: The form template was created with a newer version of InfoPath.
This form template was created by InfoPath version 14.0.0.

I have Infopath 2007, for the record. It is thus sulking in a corner and refusing to play ball.

Re: Repeating table headaches

Hilary Stoupa — Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:47:36 GMT

Oh. This was fun!

Attaching your sample with some edits - I added a "helper" field in the repeating group to leverage for the rule actions.

Re: Repeating table headaches

Queenie — Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:49:47 GMT

Thanks for checking back :)

Re: Repeating table headaches

Gennady Vanin (Геннадий Ванин, Новосибирск) — Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:44:15 GMT

Ooops, I see

I believe the solution requires using of current() in Rules XPath expressions and it would probably require editing source files, since it is related to bug (impossibility to OOTB edit XPath expression of the target of Rule) and workaround described in:

Hilary Stoupa. Manually modify manifest.xsf to Filter the Target of a Rule

Not sure yet and, unfortunately, I do not have time now to look into and reply you with concrete (codeless, IMO you should avoid code) solution but I have asked Hilary to look into your question

Re: Repeating table headaches

Queenie — Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:26:01 GMT

There we go - I fixed up a sample which shows my issue. Hopefully playing with that will show what my problem is.

Thanks for your patience.

Re: Repeating table headaches

Gennady Vanin (Геннадий Ванин, Новосибирск) — Thu, 11 Oct 2012 03:16:11 GMT

Yes.

I was not clear what was your problem and still am not

You probably should have attached your template with the post from the very beginning

Re: Repeating table headaches

Queenie — Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:37:29 GMT

Gennady - as far as I can make out, you are suggesting I change my form so that multiple rows are automatically shown when the form is opened, and that the numbers in the boxes are defaulted?

I feel I'm being particularly obtuse here :(

Re: Repeating table headaches

Gennady Vanin (Геннадий Ванин, Новосибирск) — Tue, 09 Oct 2012 14:52:25 GMT

Queenie:
2007 which doesn't seem to let me drag and drop anything anyway

It was unrelated to drag'n'dropping (or right-clicking > choosing contextual options) ...
it was about difference (amd probable mismatch in understanding the diff) between data fields and controls...

Anyway, could you just edit multi-item repeating defaults? In Infopath Designer 2010, in File > Info > Form Optons > Advanced > Edit Default Values.... ) or, what is the same, on Ribbon Data tav > Default Values (under Form Data)

I checked that it works in compatibility "Web Browser Form (2007)"

Fig.1. Editing Repeating Default Values.

Fig. 2. Previewing default values

Re: Repeating table headaches

Queenie — Tue, 09 Oct 2012 14:16:42 GMT

Drat - I just remembered Infopath won't be able to mix languages - can you do something similar in VB?