Qdabra qRules

Re: qRules 4.3 trying to install mapping tool, error

Hilary Stoupa — Mon, 15 Apr 2013 22:58:26 GMT

qRules does work in the Sandbox (i.e. - as a form published directly to a form library) if the user is a site collection admin. However, there is an Office 365 bug that is causing issues with qRules browser forms in Office 365. Here is a KB on that: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2837888?wa=wsignin1.0

Re: qRules 4.3 trying to install mapping tool, error

novak84 — Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:00:24 GMT

Using this for sharepoint online, what made me trial the product is because i know of the issues using form with code and publishing them on a Sharepoint server. I had a requirement to add some extra functionality to a web based form for SharePoint online and thought this tool would be perfect. So it doesn't work with browser based/sharepoint online because the forms need an admin to publish them? The Sharepoint online site we use is not the new upgraded version.

Re: qRules 4.3 trying to install mapping tool, error

Hilary Stoupa — Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:11:04 GMT

Do you have SharePoint with InfoPath Forms Services? If so, you can publish a qRules form as a browser form - we are currently having a hard time with qRules + Browser + Office365, but if you have on premises SharePoint with IPFS, you shouldn't have any issues with your form as a browser form.

Re: qRules 4.3 trying to install mapping tool, error

novak84 — Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:45:38 GMT

ok i am now using this to enter data in to sharepoint lists. One question................ Users will need infopath filler to fill out forms that use mappings.xml and submit to sharepoint list? Thanks.

Re: qRules 4.3 trying to install mapping tool, error

novak84 — Fri, 12 Apr 2013 09:12:19 GMT

I received a message via twitter via twitter with a link to the blog on how to use qRules 4.3 with infopath. He also told me install instructions were on page 74 of the user guide (they aren't).......and then i was pointed to the user guide for the full trust form, this mentions install.js which is wrong......so as you can see i have become a little confused with how to go about all of this. I have fixed my issue, pretty simple really............ Open infopath filler > form options > trust center > trust center settings > tick "allows trusted forms to run on my computer"

Re: qRules 4.3 trying to install mapping tool, error

Hilary Stoupa — Thu, 11 Apr 2013 18:35:48 GMT

My apologies that my blog post for 4.2 has caused you confusion with qRules 4.3 and the changes in the install process. I'll update my blog post with a note.

Re: qRules 4.3 trying to install mapping tool, error

ErnestoM — Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:07:58 GMT

Thanks for the clarification.

My understanding is that Hilary wrote the blog post for qRules v4.2, and the links on the start menu have changed slightly for qRules v4.3. I'm attaching a screenshot of what I see for qRules v4.3. The shortcut to the forms folder will allow users to open the Mapping Tool and the other installable forms included in qRules.

The issue in the User Guide has been noted and will be addressed for our next release, qRules v5.1. Can you let us know if the Installation Guide you received has correct or incorrect steps?

Thank you for your feedback.

Re: qRules 4.3 trying to install mapping tool, error

novak84 — Thu, 11 Apr 2013 14:55:48 GMT

look at this blog by hillary: http://www.infopathdev.com/blogs/hilary/archive/2012/05/30/qrules-submittosharepointlist-walkthrough-for-v4-2.aspx Look at the section "Mapping". Look at the first screen shot, there is clearly shortcuts to the mapping tool. Also there is confusion as the install/user guide isn't giving a clear message.....it mentions use the install.js if you have issues, yet you tell me that shouldn't be there. I would like some clear instructions. I will try this on another win 7 machine tomorrow.

Re: qRules 4.3 trying to install mapping tool, error

ErnestoM — Thu, 11 Apr 2013 14:28:21 GMT

I am sorry that the tool is not working on your specific machine configuration, and it's definitely something that can be investigated and resolved, but I'm afraid that over the community forum it's a little difficult to know exactly what's going on in your machine. We have tested installing this tool in various machine configurations and have many customers using this tool. Since it works on one machine and fails in another, this means we've narrowed this down to a config issue on the specific machine.

Here's an example of another InfoPath user (non qRules) running into the same issue you're describing:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/office/forum/office_2010-infopath/the-form-template-cannot-be-opened/fbe89b35-ec3d-448c-a129-f23cef984a23?msgId=3418dfc2-4554-4508-b1f9-c3961dc8e69e

novak84:
i am expecting to see the shortcut as per Hillary's blog

I'm sorry, I'm not sure what shorcut you're referring to. Are you talking about opening the tool directly from the folder? (screenshot attached) If so, we expect that should work. I would also expect the tool to open from the Installed Tools menu in InfoPath Filler 2010 (same steps you have followed on your 2nd machine).

If you'd like one on one assistance to debug the issue, we can open a support ticket and schedule a support call. If you'd like to pursue this option, please contact us via support at qdabra dot com.

Thank you.

Re: qRules 4.3 trying to install mapping tool, error

novak84 — Thu, 11 Apr 2013 14:14:14 GMT

i am expecting to see the shortcut as per Hillary's blog, is this not the case now? Seems confusion with documents and what a user should see. It is nowhere near ideal using this on a server. I would like to know how to fix it on a Win 7 64 bit machine.

Re: qRules 4.3 trying to install mapping tool, error

ErnestoM — Thu, 11 Apr 2013 13:53:52 GMT

Hi-

When a full trust form is installed, there's no visual indicator (such as a shortcut) to tell us it was installed, EXCEPT that the form shows up in the InfoPath 2010 Filler, under Installed Forms.

I'm glad the form opened on the 2nd machine you've tried. It seems there's a machine issue on your personal PC, although I'm not sure what that could be. It might take some live troubleshooting to figure this one out.

Perhaps you could use the Tool on the 2nd machine for now. If you decide qRules is right for you, we can set up a support call later on to troubleshoot the issue on your PC and get that resolved.

Thanks.

Re: qRules 4.3 trying to install mapping tool, error

novak84 — Thu, 11 Apr 2013 08:19:50 GMT

ok after more trouble shooting. I have installed on a Win 2008 Server and although i didn't get the shortcuts to the mapping tool i could open infopath filler and use the installed form. Ok back to my personal machine, it is Win 7 64 bit and i am the admin. Why do you think i am getting the issues listed on this thread?

Re: qRules 4.3 trying to install mapping tool, error

novak84 — Thu, 11 Apr 2013 06:02:16 GMT

That is exactly what i have done. The initial post was about this, Hillary pointed out i needed to kill the infopath process, since then, it has installed (well, no errors) but i am not seeing the shortcut to the mapping tool and i can't run it via infopath filler, at the very least i would expect to see the files installed in the directory after the install?

Re: qRules 4.3 trying to install mapping tool, error

ErnestoM — Wed, 10 Apr 2013 20:53:57 GMT

Hi,

I'm sorry that the user guide still mentions the install.js.

Can you try to follow the steps in the document called "qRules Full Trust Form Installation Guide"? This should be available in

C:\Program Files (x86)\Qdabra Software\Qdabra Rules Library\Forms

Thanks.

Re: qRules 4.3 trying to install mapping tool, error

novak84 — Wed, 10 Apr 2013 20:44:13 GMT

i downloaded the trial yesterday........................ i haven't changed anything on my laptop where i develop my infopath forms, it is a personal laptop and doesn't have any company policies etc